Attorney and was advised to stop the interrogation. Although the police terminated the questioning at sometime between 11:15 a.m. and 11:25 a.m., a substantially complete stenographic statement already had been obtained. Upon a hearing to determine the admissibility of defendant’s oral inculpatory statements made during his first period of detention and the admissibility of both his oral and transcribed confessions made during his second period of detention, the court found that there was "reasonable cause to believe that the defendant was in some way connected with the alleged crime”; that "he voluntarily went with Detective Elwood Smith to the police headquarters”; and that the defendant’s attorney was not denied access to his client. The oral statements and the oral and transcribed confessions were held to be admissible. Initially, we 'find that the record fails to disclose the requisite probable cause to justify an arrest of the defendant on March 12, 1975. The information known to the police was not of such weight and persuasiveness as to warrant the belief that it was reasonably likely that the defendant had committed the crimes (CPL 70.10, subd 2). Indeed, it appears that at most the defendant may have been placed in the near vicinity of the crimes around the time when they may have occurred (see
People v Morales, 42 NY2d 129 , 134-135). While it is true that police "may detain an individual upon reasonable suspicion for questioning for a reasonable and brief period of time under carefully controlled conditions which are ample to protect the individual’s Fifth and
Sixth Amendment rights”
(People v Morales, supra, p 135 ), here the first period of detention was not "reasonable and brief’. The detention extended for over 12 hours, more than 5 of which had passed before the defendant made the inculpatory statements. The statements, however, may nonetheless be deemed admissible if the defendant consented to the police detention
(People v Morales, supra, pp 137-138 ) or if they were not the product of an illegal detention
(Brown v Illinois, 422 US 590 ;
Wong Sun v United States, 371 US 471 ). While the burden was on the court to make findings of fact and conclusions of law (CPL 710.60, subd 6), the court’s only determination bearing upon those issues was that the defendant voluntarily went to police headquarters. The continuing nature of the detention was not fully explored in the record and was not addressed by the court in its decision. On such a scant record, it is impossible to decide whether the inculpatory statements are otherwise admissible under
the Fourth Amendment. Accordingly, we remit the case for a further evidentiary hearing (see
Morales v New York, 396 US 102 ;
People v
Dunaway, 38 NY2d 812 ) at which there should be, for example, a thorough exploration of the circumstances of the continuing police confrontation with the defendant and the manner, intensity and duration of the interrogation. While this rationale applies with equal force to a determination of the admissibility of the defendant’s oral confession during his second period of detention, on the further hearing questions may also arise, among others, with respect to the nature and extent of his second detention (see
People v Morales, supra) and/or probable cause therefor. Such concerns, however, need not be applied to the defendant’s stenographically recorded statement. While it may be concluded on this limited record that aside from constitutional considerations, all of the defendant’s statements and confessions were otherwise voluntarily made (see CPL 60.45), the transcribed statement must be suppressed on the ground that it was obtained in violation of defendant’s right to counsel. "Once the lawyer entered the criminal proceeding representing the defendant in connection with criminal charges under investigation, it was impermissible to question defendant in custody and in the absence of his attorney
(People v Ramos, 40 NY2d 610 ,