and timely asserted, (2) there has been a knowing and intelligent waiver of the right to counsel, and (3) the defendant has not engaged in conduct which would prevent the fair and orderly exposition of the issues”
(People v McIntyre, 36 NY2d 10 , 17). Here, it is clear that defendant’s request was timely and that he had not engaged in disruptive conduct. With regard to the second requirement the court explained in
McIntyre that inquiry into the defendant’s age, education, occupation and previous exposure to legal procedures is appropriate in determining the defendant’s competency to waive counsel (p 17). Moreover, in
People v Reason (
37 NY2d 351 , 356), the court rejected a defendant’s contention that the trial court erred in allowing him to represent himself, noting that "the Trial Judge made a searching inquiry to determine whether the defendant’s decision to waive counsel and proceed on his own was made knowingly and intelligently with full awareness of the risks and consequences.” (See, also,
People v Medina, 44 NY2d 199 , 209-210.) On the other hand, in
People v Allen (
39 NY2d 916 ), the court found that a single inquiry as to whether defendant understood the charges against him was insufficient to form the basis for finding a knowing and intelligent waiver of the right to counsel. The inquiry of the trial court here was more extensive than the perfunctory single question in
People v Allen (supra), but appears to fall short of the "searching inquiry” of
People v Reason (supra) since there was no direct questioning of the defendant as to whether he was fully aware of the risks and consequences of waiving counsel and proceeding on his own. As explained in
Faretta v California (supra, p 835 ), "Although a defendant need not himself have the skill and experience of a lawyer in order competently and intelligently to choose self-representation, he should be made aware of the dangers and disadvantages of self-representation, so that the record will establish that 'he knows what he is doing and his choice is made with eyes open.’” The court’s inquiry here was limited to ascertaining that defendant wanted to represent himself and believed himself qualified to do so, that defendant had gone to college for one year and that defendant did not want a mental examination. Despite defendant’s indication that he had no experience with trial work outside some difficulties he had been in, the court made no effort to ascertain whether defendant was cognizant of the traditional benefits associated with the right to counsel, which he was relinquishing. Such a limited inquiry cannot form a rational basis for finding a competent and intelligent waiver of counsel. (Compare
United States v Dujanovic, 486 F2d 182 , with
United States ex rel. Smith v Pavich, 568 F2d 33 .) It may well be that the specific factual background will in some instances excuse the Trial Judge’s failure to give explicit warning and advice regarding the waiver of counsel (see
United States v Rosenthal, 470 F2d 837 , cert den
412 US 909 ), but in such cases the record will reveal that defendant was in fact knowledgeable about his right to counsel and what he was relinquishing
(id.; see, also,
People v Brown, 60 AD2d 540 ). The record herein does not establish such knowledge by the defendant. - Apprehension of the nature of the charges and the possible range of punishment is also one of the foundations upon which a knowing and competent waiver of the right to counsel vests (see
Matter of Lawrence S., 29 NY2d 206 , 208). The colloquy between the Judge and the defendant at the hearing to determine defendant’s competence to represent himself concluded with defendant’s assertion that "This is a childish matter”, raising a substantial question as to defendant’s understanding of the seriousness of the charges and the consequences of his decision to represent himself. The record also reveals a question as to whether defendant’s request to represent himself was unequivocal. It is apparent that his